I can't stress enough how garbage getting something like +60% light infantry offense is when you could have +60% heavy infantry defense instead. I mean at the point of the game Christianity has been around for a very long time with plentiful opportunities for permutation. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Rulers can order subject to Take the Vows. Hellenism is the best in-game Pagan religion. I am looking for exactly what it says in the title. The best Doctrines by far are the two "Clans" option with the slight edge to Enatic. Prisoners of different religions can be sacrificed for Piety. This item has been removed from the community because it violates Steam Community & Content Guidelines. Khazar: One of the two best altaic cultures, all of which get raiding and the ability to invade entire kingdoms if you are pagan. You are using an out of date browser. Absolute cognatic succession is enforced. That should remain as well as this. Each religion also has its own unique doctrines that you can choose, but don't necessarily have to. Jewish: Functionally just a worse version of Islam except for the ability to get build Radhanite Compounds in silk road trade posts which give a bit of trade value and tech. You must log in or register to reply here. Want to find out neat combos to do? All rights reserved. Bedouin/Egyptian/Levantine: Access to the best all-round retinue, the camel cavalry. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. First off I didn't do any exploits. Mongols: The same as above, but no compounds. Zunists also get +30% levy size and +20% to heavy infantry combat, making them a huge boon to feudal realms and/or heavy infantry based cultures in addition to their religious festival having the chance to grant nice traits and a holy order consistenting entirely of heavy infantry and light cavalry. These natures not only provide you some kind of bonus, but also affect the way the AI behaves, which is something important to keep in mind when making your decision. I would suggest against prepared invasions/warmongering as it leads to rather unstable vassals, and generally does not benefit you personally as the leige as you will far exceed the maximum realm size requirement. A short guide to the best religions and cultures. JavaScript is disabled. Sacrificing prisoners unlocks special traits, actions, and a bloodline that grants Prestige for sacrifices as well. AI rulers will only convert same-group provinces. I've played as African pagan a lot since HF dropped and I'd never ever take TG over AV. The opinion bonus and extra piety is always useful, which translates into a more stable realm. Shouldn't the pre-reformation Old Faith stay around as a heresy? CK2 Religion Tier List. All rights reserved. . For Power, Divine Marriage is average. There are some Abrahamic faiths with 'legalism' that let you do a religious debate to get piety also. Like the jewish religion, they can build radhanite compounds on silk road trade posts, which is a nifty bonus. For best run: The High Chieftess of Kiev in 769 reforming Slavic to be Enatic Clans is a stupidly fun run that I've been doing a lot of. Crusader Kings 2 is now free-to-play. Reformer becomes the first religious head. Easily the best for power gaming, as you can directly target Great Holy Wars, and don't . Hey guys, and welcome to this guide. Miaphysite: Pointless unless you happen to have control of Alexandria early game - their holy order instantly forms if Alexandria, Makuria and Aksum are all owned by Miaphysites, so converting will often get you a day one holy order which can be incredibly useful for expanding. The reformed pagans have only one heresy. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion, levy & garrison bonus from Unyielding nature or offensive bonus of Unrelenting doctrine in the first doctrine slot, it is lost. and our Duke-tier religious heads common for all realms. For example, the average/casual player is probably not going be aggressively bloodline stacking. JavaScript is disabled. CK2 Cheats CK2 Province IDs CK2 Event IDs Other CK2 IDs and Codes CK2 Blog. Valve Corporation. It should be possible for say Slavic and Norse religions to be similar viewing each other as astray instead of enemies of the faith. Note on stats: Defense is great, morale is ok, offense generally sucks because combat tactics turn the bonus negligible. Celtic Paganism was already gone by then time Old Gods period begins. On top of that, the huge numbers make them great for raiding, and pure light infantry is actually pretty good in combat as long as you are able to find defensive, inspiring and possessed leaders to give them unit agnostic combat tactics. Out of all the Succession Doctrines, Meritocracy is probably the safest. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. If it makes you feel better, as a Hellenist, I'm highly annoyed that the Pontifex Maximus of the Temple isn't an extant office in CKII despite the office which hosts it (the Emperor of Rome) being extant. Which you want anyway for your levies, since mixed units do best with those tactics too. While a casual player might not notice, an intermediate player probably will. Bn: Functionally useless later in the game, it can be worth sticking with for a while if you're monastic feudal and want to hold onto your monasteries for a while as you subjugate other pagans or you want to chew your way through India as a pagan, since Dharmic characters like you more than they would a random pagan. With Divine Marriage and Hierocratic leader as a vassal, you can repeatedly divorce and marry the same close relative, each time gaining free money or prestige, and piety. Retinues are a little worse than Russian though. Rulers can choose to gain sympathy with another faith by decisions. Enatic-cognatic law is available. The Papacy finally had had enough and tried to stamp it out, but it simply moved underground after the Eleventh Century. Check it out. Ship maintenance reduced to 10%. I assume with the frevor mechanic the issue is cleaned up a bit as the pagans won't expand as fast, but still I would advise another route, which wont have the issues of the old faiths. Type the name of a title, or a title ID, into the search box below to instantly search our . Unlocks divine marriage, allowing and encouraging incestuous marriages. Unyielding also reduces AI aggressiveness, which can be a negative if you want your AI vassals to attack/invade your enemies for you. Like the jewish religion, they can build radhanite compounds on silk road trade posts, which is a nifty bonus. Religious Control Mandate law is unavailable. The reason I am suggesting this is because the old_pagan heresy rarely wins or makes a comeback as well as to add more flavour. Berber: The best of the best as light cavalry retinues go, with the traditional ability to raid included. I can't be more direct as I can't remember the layout of the land in the beginning. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. This will be important to refer to later on when we get into the nitty gritty. Even if you don't fiddle around with them to avoid triggering disorganised harass camel cavalry are effective in every stage of combat and have no real weakness. I might make a post in the future on how I think all the religions and doctrines could be improved/fixed to make them viable for both Fun and Power, but Ive written enough for now. To even start thinking about CK2s Pagan Reformation, you will first need to conquer three of the holy sites of your religion. I was new to HF just like everyone else and I had no idea what the end result would be. +80% Defense and +80% morale for all units if fighting in county of this religion. If you start play as I do during the Old Gods period, I am astounded that there is no formalization of Celtic Paganism for places like Ireland. Agnatic law is enforced, open succession law is unlocked. Paradoxx can't stack their games with all the minor religions/sects and spiritual congregations. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Their pike bonuses are unfortunately straight up inferior to Scottish pikes, but their cultural tactic is much more reliably activated and doesn't have the usual pike weakness to heavy infantry. Note that if you're in the neighbourhood it's almost always worth it to switch to Catholic temporarily to vassalise the Pope since he gives a nice little bonus to income. Im happy to discuss my rankings or analysis with you guys. the mod CK2+ adds in celtic paganism if i remember correctly. Each religion starts in a different position as well, and that can affect the decisions you make to reform your religion. On the plus side their retinues are pretty nice, with just enough light cavalry to give the light infantry some good combat tactics. Doctrines - Ancestor Veneration, Pyramid Construction, Doctrines - Unrelenting, Animistic, Haruspicy, Doctrines - Daring, Sea-Bound, Bloodthirsty Gods. Not in the sense of the doctrines or the choices you have within them, but in the way that they have most of the time only one heresy and that is their old unreformed faith. Some doctrines are incompatible with others, and some doctrines overwrite bonuses from others. I hope this tier list/guide was useful for you here reading this, despite its huge length. Von Kronenbourg Apr 16, 2014 @ 11:38am. Meritocracy does have a major downside in that you can only designate your children, making it difficult to get your genius strong nephew on the throne or skip a generation. I've noticed my chaplain is extremely good at increasing fervor. Fleet can navigate through major rivers, but maintenance cost remains full. Privacy Policy. A pagan start that allows to make a kingdom and to reform faith in the shortest time, preferably, before the first succession and loss of titles. I really need to know lmao. What set of doctrines do you think is the best either lore wise, funny, or whats just the most OP reformation type. When you finally select to reform the religion, you will have to choose from many Natures and Doctrines which ones will represent you. Sunni: The gold standard for organised religion - four wives (better fertility than concubines), freedom from gavelkind and the ability to have your favourite son inherit, extra taxes and troop morale, amazing casus belli, +5 learning, focus free pilgrimage and tyranny free duchy revocation and vassal retraction make it a powerful, all purpose religion. You can get 3 holy sites fairly quickly, then do county conquests on the nearby Slavic and Finnish pagans to get MA past 50%. Ruler does not receive opinion penalties for raised vassal levies. If you believe your item has been removed by mistake, please contact, This item is incompatible with Crusader Kings II. The Celtic peoples were already Catholic for hundreds of years by then. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Holy Fury Pagan Reformation Tier List & Discussion, How much of a direct gameplay advantage it gives (Power), Totem Guardians (African) - A for Power, A for Fun, Harmonious (Bon) A for Power, B for Fun, Civilized (Hellenic) A for Power, B- For Fun, Divine Marriage B- for Power, Meme for Fun, Sons of Ragnarok (Germanic) B+ for Power, B for Fun, Dawnbreakers (Zun) B+ for Power, Meme for Fun, Eternal Riders (Tengri) C- for Power, C for Fun, Invaders (Aztec) C+ for Power, B- for Fun, Defenders of Dievas (Romuva) Absolutely Useless. No male in the council. Natures A Tier Proselytizing - A for Power, B for Fun I consider Proselytizing the best nature in the game if only because it is the only doctrine where your vassals will actively convert provinces from all religious groups. Ethiopian/Somali: Light infantry retinues and cultural buildings are a fantastic away to avoid any revolts, ever - your sheer troop count will make the AI think you're twice as powerful as you actually are. Disallow avuncular marriage and cousin marriage. Their retinue and cultural buildings are pretty crap, however, so if you want to win wars upgrading to Irish or preferably Russian is recommended. In Crusader Kings 3, religion serves all these purposes. I still havent gotten than event. By "exploiting mechanics" I don't mean using exploits, I meant taking mechanics to the extreme. And that is their unreformed version which sadly stays unreformed. Even as Catholic I would land my kin (I tried to do that as Muslim and learned the hard way via decadence revolts to never do it again). Deciding to go pagan, if the moral . It was fairy well established by 867. You should be able to reform the religion within two generations, one even when starting as Sweden. The best Crusader Kings 2 mods. Crusader Kings II. Please see the. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. They are interesting and important in the cultural sense but they did not have the kind of influence at the time that Catholocism did. Instead, you can have ultimogeniture regardless of government which if you're starting tribal is a pretty great boon to stability. Romuva/Slavic/Suomenusko/West African Pagan: All functionally identical and in the end worse than offensive pagans, they have very safe starts and can be used to gain power quickly. Adds the ability to "reform" a pagan religion to make it more capable of competing with the Abrahamic faiths; . You need to sign in or create an account to do that. After cleaning up their old faith they have no larger issues with heresies again as the ones that switch to the heresy tend to be falling apart rather quickly or rarely pop up as the MA remains high. Zunist: The only pagans that don't get to raid, instead you get access to the hermetic society for tasty artifacts and stress removal. being able to roleplay as discount Vikings as any pagan religion can be fun, and using rivers is always an interesting mechanic. I think that this is an interesting proposal that could really shake the game up with Pagan Reformation occuring. Have you looked at Mali/africa. This item will only be visible to you, admins, and anyone marked as a creator. It was already confirmed that paganism can have heresies. Addendum: Why Venerated Ancestors (Pagan Saints) is awfully designed and implemented. I mean making the enemy duke your vassal king through external inheritance? Valve Corporation. The first heresy. Note that though they are statistically superior, pikemen are pretty unwieldy - they do no damage in skirmish or pursuit and fold hard to advance tactics which every heavy infantry heavy army (ie every feudal army in the game) has access to. Rulers can spend 500 Prestige and 150 Piety to increase courtier or own attributes. By doing a Pagan Reformation, the player decides to change the way their religion works for their CK2 playthrough. Well. Or maybe you just want to organize your ancestors ancient spiritual traditions into a true reformed Faith, one that can stand up to the Crescent and Cross? Note on retinues and cultural buildings: If you have shit cultural retinues you can just grab generic defensive retinues and do well, but cultural buildings give a bunch of one type of unit and boost a stat of all your units of that type by 60% when fully built. Allows building the Sacrificial Altar feature of Great Temple, Great Stone Circle, Aztec Pyramid and Stonehenge, as well as the Grand Amphitheater. Reddit, Inc. 2023. The catholics have cathar, lollardy and more, the sunni also have zirki, ibadi and so on. As an Historian, I can say it depends where you look in Ireland. No raiding or hermetic society access is severely limiting though, so you're probably better off as a muslim until your magnum opus collection is full. Pagan characters require The Old Gods DLC to play. I was talking about more about inheritance, Vassals inheriting each other or outside titles, Or two vassals combining into one, Or one vassal taking advantage of easy claims to blob inside. I'd suggest backing up a copy of your save game at the point where you can reform the religion and then trying a few combinations. Maybe one of the Eastern faiths that can do meditation decisions? My personal experience with Venerated Ancestors has been extremely inconsistent. I've been able to do it as Haraldr Fairhair before. Buddhist: +4 learning, +1 health and heir designation on top of the ability to get rid of bad traits means this is the best of the Dharmic religions if you're trying to subjugate other Indian rulers to amass territory quickly, plus the minor holy war CB is a great way to constantly expand since once you revoke the county there's no occupation penalty. For more information, please see our Thread starter WatershockPlayz; Start date Sep 3, 2020; . Raiding unavailable if culture doesnt allow raiding. Reddit, Inc. 2023. It may not display this or other websites correctly. One issue that I realized in CK2 is, that reformed pagans are overpowered. All rights reserved. Have I got the religion for you! People dedicing no we'll return to the old ways, get outa here with your reforms! (well actually 1 is just outside of it now but at least its not 2 kingdoms away). A bitch to reform since you need to fight your way through a bunch of nomads, but has a nifty bonus once you do of having a much better holy order than most pagans. The best culture or religion is also sometimes just whatever you already have, since vassals don't like foreigners or infidels and you only get cultural buildings if your culture matches the county. I like Romuva and Suomensusko the best but I don't have much experience with Bon but I think I'll try them soon. Conquer 3 of your religion's 5 holy cities, get Religious Authority in your own religion to at least 50, make sure you have 750 piety and then hit the reform button on the religion screen. Doctrinal differences can arise within a lifetime (Sunni-Shia split), and new religions can take a while to crystallise their theology and practices (see the division in the early Church). The benefit of Agnatic/Enatic Clans open succession is not that you can choose your heir, it's that your heir gets all titles - so you can escape Gavelkind which tribal pagans are usually limited to. Minor differences in religions generally are tolerable by other rulers and other counties of that religion, but a big difference will be viewed as a heresy. Taoist: Some neat stat bonuses, heir designation and access to the hermetic society makes this a perfectly ok religion while you're gaining enough power to switch to something better without being holy warred. Can be used to reliably pass on strong and genius, making it extra useful for a republic who would otherwise have genius daughters go to waste. Alternatively, if the moral authority or piety requirements are too hard you can instead control all five holy sites - this is also sufficient to reform. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. But you're right, in some situations it's really powerful. I think it is highly naive to think that saints like Saint Patrick replaced "Celtic" deities. For more information, please see our So maybe a low fervor pagan religion could result in conversion to a nearby Abrahamic religion, which would be quite dangerous. This guide is specifically about the Pagan Reformation that comes with the Holy Fury DLC, this is NOT about how to play as a pagan or religions in general. Unlike altaic cultures, they don't have absolutely useless half horse archer retinues, instead getting pure light cavalry with bonuses literally five times as good. You are using an out of date browser. My guide was more aimed at the casual/experienced player rather than the hardcore veteran (hardcore veterans don't need guides/tierlists!). If you want to play tall/stable, Peaceful is often better. You'll have to deal with the other negatives that come from the chaplain's failures, of course. While the other faiths have reformed heresies that can threaten them or expand and stay for a rather long time, the reformed pagans only have an unreformed version which falls apart after a few years. The sun is reflected beautifully on his bald head. It's aimed at more of the casual/intermediate player. Will it have a religious leader, like the Pope? AI rulers will try to convert their provinces. Once your account is created, you'll be logged-in to this account. I find one of the most boring parts of Pagan games is that theres no other friendly or same religion nations, pagan games often end up just being your country vs the world in holy wars. Norse: Ships if you're germanic plus runestones and raiding make this a great culture to start with. I tried them, the Meditate decision only relieves stress for me although the tooltip says a chance for gaining learning is available. The reformed pagans . I am close to reforming the Romuva religion in 769, 15 years in, still playing original character, the Duke of Yatvingia (now King of Lithuania). That being said I agree that reforming pagan religions should have a compelling heresy mechanic. "Converting" for a day so you can join a society seems pretty gamey to me - i.e. +5% Morale of armies. Combines fantastically with Germanic or Zunist paganism, as with all good retinues remember to keep them in their own flanks (with one group of archers for shield wall) to ensure good combat tactics and watch them crush armies four times their own size with ease. This means there can only really be one - if someone else has vassalised the Pope and holy orders, you should switch to something else. I find Romuva the easiest. To make sense of the differences between religions, Crusader Kings 3 gives each of them a set of tenets and doctrines, and it divides them . Ancient Religions is a mod that aims at recreating dead religions in the time-frame of vanilla Crusader Kings II . A note on temples: Just because you can hold them, doesn't mean you should. Rulers lose prestige when at peace for too long. Though you are surrounded by enemies, there are three holy sites within one Kingdom. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. So I understand the frustration here, beyond that it'd be rather nice to see Celtic Paganism proper instead of bloody Vikings overrunning the island. Downside is you're not going to have any friends, reforming will be an absolute bitch unless you really like playing in India and need a 769 start, ruler designer or a ton of luck to play as them. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Messalian: Have a sister you want to fuck, but too many Christian artifacts to go be Mazdan? The catholics have cathar, lollardy and more, the sunni also have zirki, ibadi and so on. I can't disagree strongly enough with this. and our This gives me some new options to consider. Don't forget that Prophet perk reduce the cost by 50%, negating 100% fervor penalty. Bewildered by the amount of options when it comes to reforming? By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. 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