You've successfully subscribed to this newsletter! Long ago (early 1970s) I purchased a Colt Combat Commander in Super 38 from a Pawn Shop. jacketed bullets Im sending them across my Chrony at 1550 fps. I think the fact that during the 60s 38 Super kinda faded and like I said the ammo wasnt really easy to get. Cartledge provides some interesting comments that contradict the conventional belief that Hamer also toted a 1911 pistol in .45 ACP: Two months later, Frank Hamer opted for the Remington .35 as his hole puncher and he picked an interesting pistol to go with his quick-pointing rifle. Soon only the walls and the vault remained. I pretty much fell in love with the Colt 1911 38 Super I have. Just pick up your brass. The testimony that the lawyers gathered- as a result of the names of voters that later testified they had never voted- and jotted down while in the bank- demonstrated, beyond any doubt, according to Robert Caro (the definitive Johnson biographer)- that Lyndon Johnson had personally conducted one of the most massive election frauds in U.S. electoral history. The first consideration is a 38 Super barrel. Glad both calibers are being produced again in greater numbers. Traces Professional has everything to make it distinctly his own. They were later gunned down in 1934 on the outskirts of Bienville Parish, La. The trigger pull was a crisp 4-1/2 pounds, with very little take up or over-travel. Market data provided by Factset. used to rainbow trajectories with 45, I have one and love it mine is a rock island sometimes hard to find ammo. On horseback pursuing Mexican bandits or errant Comanches, or in the seat of a Crown Victoria sleuthing out a serial killer, Rangers usually carry all their equipment with them. I have a letter from Colt showing the shipment. Nevertheless, the brief opportunity to look at the election documents inside the bank was made possible by Hamers 200 yard walk down the center of Alice, Texas with his coat off. What you end up with is a 10 shot stiff 9mm or a 10 shot 357 Magnum+P and after dropping 2 deer with the 923 I can attest to its effectiveness. There is also a brief history after that on the Colt Commander. Hamer retained a Special Ranger commission after retirement and he put it to good use. After months of pondering if I should, I finally gave in and bought the Kimber. Those are Supers, and they were the better choice for a while. Your email address will not be published. Full Details. I figured that if you go oddball with the Super, why go very normal with a 1911? Hamer also owned many other guns. over the 45ACP, and got one. My son went from a intelegence analyst to a diplomatic security agent and was only allowed a issued 9mm for his side arm. Hard to find ammo in a platform I dont particularly care for and no, I cant stand Glock either. Find the best prices on used Colt handguns and rifles for sale online at Guns.com. Colt 1911 Heritage .38 Super Full-Size Stainless Pistol with Custom Scroll Engraving Notify Me When Available; Brand: Colt; Item Number: O1911C-SS38-DHM; Colt 1911 Government 38 Super Semi-Auto Pistol with Blued Finish and Wood Grips $949.99; Notify Me When Available; The stage was now set for Frank Hamer to accept a commission to hunt down the Barrow Gang as a special investigator for the prison system. HT110, OW86, W:D71) called Old Lucky, either in a holster on his right side, or, when he was no longer required to ride a horse, simply tucked into his waistband. You cant beat going online to find a gun that youre looking for, and I can just about guarantee that youd find 38 Supers on GunBroker, to name just one place. *Last, but not the least: CDNN Sports (TX), used to sell genuine, ramped / supported SIG .38 Super bbls for 1.911. Okay, here are the generals I think people will say about the Super: its an accurate, well developed round with an extensive commercial and handload database. I have several 1911s and handguns whose calibers run the gamut from .22 through .45 ACP But my .38 Super is by far my smoothest, easiest and most comfortable handgun I own, hands down. The Rangers were dealing with arms smuggling, bandits and bootleggers along the Mexican border. Have mounted a red dot as my eyes are weaker. I fit a Super 38 barrel to it and a 1lb. If so Where to get 9mm barrel and what else might be needed for this conversion? Im in Chandler. Paul Harrell has good things to say about the cartridge if you look him up. The Pre-War Colt .38 Super or "Super 38" were produced from 1929-1945. Both can be purchased through the Texas Ranger Museum Gift Shop. Is it good for self-defense? I usually carry the handgun with Wilson Combat magazines. America's Ultimate Shooting Sports Discounter. bullets topping 1400 fps. The posse may have fired as many as 150 rounds. The Commander Model 38 Super pistol on the left includes the standard blued finish and checkered wood grips. The Wilson Combat Texas Ranger Professional on Ranger Trace McDonalds belt works, as our range outing proved. defense as they sell hollow points as well. The FBI Special Agents, the Border patrol, many Texas Rangers, St. Louis P.D.,and many leos, particularly in the South West of the U.S., favored the round due to it's superior penetration over the .45acp. A gentleman in Texas made the gun up for me and I am very happy with it. Hammer carried his Triplelock in a shoulder holster. Bill Wilson and Trace understood this, and Wilson had a simple solution: Offer each Ranger any 1911 Wilson Combat made, modified as they requested, but with special Texas Ranger markings. 1911forum is your friend. Add to Wish List . 9mm, 45 acp and 40 s&w. Advice: Buy ammo when ever you find a good price ( I need to start reloading again). When he got to the next group, his fingers curled for the draw and poised just above the grip of his pistol. Not many local gun stores stock them, so you may have to shop around. The article covers the bases pretty well the 38 super is to a 9mm what the 357 is to the 38 splin short more bang. After entering the Ranger service in 1961, Elliot . Caliber: .38 Colt Special Overall condition as seen in photos. I happen to have a Colt 1911 National Match in the .38 Super Full Wad Cutter. SDS Imports 10100513 1911A1 Regulator 9+1 5" Hard Chrome Plated Barrel, High Polished Chomium Coated Serrated Steel Slide & Frame w/Beavertail Frame Checkered Wood Grips. It made an excellent weapon for aircrew members, combat medics , radiomen and machine gunners. I sometimes wonder if it will gain some steam among conventional shooters like the 10mm has. The .38 Super was introduced in the 1911 handgun in 1929 to arm peace officers with a hard-hitting handgun that offered good penetration against the new breed of mechanized thug. , Colt revolvers with detachable shoulder stocks, 1873 Colt Single Action Revolver, Ranger Cal Aten, 1873 Winchester Rifle, Ranger J. TriStar 85680 SPS Vista LNG 1911 Black/CHR 18rd. Coke Stevenson to the Texas State Bank in Alice, county seat of Jim Wells County in South Texas. Born in Rowena, Texas, Parker met Barrow at the home of a mutual friend in January 1930, according to the most credible accounts. Texas Ranger Joaquin Jackson who spent the later part of his illustrious career looking after the harsh, massive Texas Big Bend Country, packed a Colt .45 auto throughout his distinguished career. , https://www.texasranger.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Firearms-Colt-Super38-1024x671.jpg. I haven't had any issues whatsoever and have a good 3k rounds of this stuff thru my 2 guns. Choose the best gun for you needs with respect of your physical and shooting abilities and select the caliber best suited for the most likely application you could find yourself in. It filled the gap between the .45 Colt and the .38 Special. The loading gate is loose when down. Stevenson was elected to a full term in 1942, winning the Democratic primary with 69% and being unopposed in the general election. Stainless hex head grip screws secure the grips he chose: Black/grey G-10 with a Starburst Pattern. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. At about the age of sixteen Coke Stevenson began his career as the sole proprietor of a freight hauling business traveling back and forth across the rugged Hill Country of West Texas every week. Im glad for that because todays Texas Rangers, just like those hard men who came before, still work in harms way. Barrel is marked "Texas Ranger". Hamer stood in the doorway of the bank and a long confrontation ensued until finally Parrs gunmen walked away. Would even use as a carry gun. NO COLLECTION TOO BIG OR SMALL cartridge. DISCLAIMER: Some firearms can be sold on our sales floor before they are removed from web. A 6 1/2 inch gun would have been difficult to use. His trial practice in Texas made him one of the greatest trial lawyers ever to try a case in a state known for famous trial lawyers. Sell a Similar Item. These Supers belonged to Nelson and were assembled from kits made by the Monarch Gun Company of Hollywood, California by underworld gunsmith H. S. Lebman of Texas. Cylinders are all very good, bore has some pitting. Own a Taurus 1911, and have used it in matches. Colt 1911 Government Model Mark IV Series 70 38 Super Box. Caliber: 38 COLT SPECIAL. I took it to a local range to shoot it and instantly fell in love. The VERY best / strongest, brass is Starline rimless COMP. The Professional was developed to mate a full-size frame to a compact (4-inch) slide. I bought a gun to fit my mistake,and dont regret it ,shoots dead accurate and hardly any recoil. According to one of the posters, the reason that the Texas Rangers liked the Super 38 was that it would penetrate car bodies better than other calibers. After shooting M9s in the military I was a decent shot. In the 80s people began to realize that head spacing off the Rim (like revolver cartridges) was why so many .38 Supers were not accurate, and started spacing off the case mouth, like the .45 ACP. I use the Colt Combat Commander. as well as lawmen had caught on to bullet proof vests and their resistance to .45 caliber penetration. Competition shooters are .38 Super Auto fanatics. I have that love very much I shoot it in bulleye comp at 50 feet it is great but I need brass for my gun if any body has some get me I will pay for it thank you all. Bring out the 38 super for fun matches. Below this was a lightweight aluminum-alloy frame, with a flat-black Armor Tuff finish, making the package lighter on the belt and giving a striking appearance. The frame is undercut at the front strap trigger-guard juncture, for a higher grip, and the front strap and flat mainspring housing are checkered in an effective 30-lpi pattern. In the future might try to acquire a Sig in 38 Super. Keep Reading. The Barrow gang is believed to have killed at least nine police officers and several civilians in the course of its crime wave. And Its got plenty of rounds. Ferguson had proven that she was corrupt. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. The Super 38 and 923 are almost the same and reloaded with Super dies are. I know this will sound funny but about the only time I ever even think about the .38 Super is when happening to catch re-reuns of Nash Bridges. The .45 SAA Colt was a mainstay until John Browning completed his 1911 project. Corrosion-resistant stainless steel and chambered in .38 Super, this firearm is a pure and simple 1911 designed for you to make it your own. Lot 1183: The nickel-plated Colt Single Action Army carried by Texas Ranger Jack Dean is chambered in 38-40 WCF with factory engraving and carved steer grips. Is there a reference for the 6 1/2 inch Triplelock? Git!, he admonished and then, Fall back!. Can a 9mm barrel be used in a Metro Arms 1911 38 super? And it was so heavy that Colt said it would take a "Texan to shoot it.". I shoot 38 super in a RIA 1911 that my gunsmith set up A Colt .38 Super was carried by Texas Ranger Jack Hammer, and others, because it was the only caliber of its time that could penetrate the body armor that the then current crop of criminals in the US were wearing. The Colt .38-caliber Detectives Special revolver, which was recovered from Parkers body by Texas Ranger Capt. Shot at point blank range, Hamer snatched the jammed gun out of the assassins hand when a second assailant started blazing away at Hamer. Out of stock. It fired a .429-inch, 200 grain lead, round-nose bullet at around 870 feet per second and 336 ft-lbs energy which equaled the .44 Russian's traditional 246 grain load. Trace McDonald, a Ranger in Eastern Texas, acquired his first Wilson Combat pistola CQB modeland eventually Trace contacted Bill Wilson to see if Wilson Combat would be interested in helping some Texas Rangers acquire handguns with the quality that his CQB displayed. I accidentally bought 38 super rounds through the mail and realized my mistake. . I reload for mine so ammunition is not a problem, All loads are made up in rimless Starline match brass and with a load the pistol likes I can get 2 groups at 25 yards. Regardless, once you get the brass, a Super can be just as economical to shoot as a 9mm. I found that using 9mm bullets expanded the available range of bullets without affecting accuracy. I loved my .38 super so much i bought a colt competition series a few years ago. His favorite longarm was a .30-30 Winchester M1894 lever-action rifle. Your gun and its caliber are a tool to be used for sport shooting, hunting, and self-defense. The .38 Super chambered 1911 arriving in 1929 pre-dated not only the .357 Magnum of 1935 but also the .38-44 Heavy Duty of 1930. Description: Belgium Texas Ranger 38 COLT SPL. SS 5" w/KNIFE 1 OF 500 (TALO) Out of stock View Details . The third reason springs from a fortunate experiment done by a friend of mine in 1939 on a dare. Cheaper Than Dirt and Academy Sports both offer good supplies, and the Internet lists a number of suppliers, both foreign and domestic. He ordered the lower courts injunction stayed, and the ruling was upheld by the Supreme Court. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. Got the 38 Super bug a little late to convert one of my Glocks since the source for the barrels dried up. A larger group stood in the doorway of the bank where Johnsons cronies illegally kept the election records. heavier recoil spring. But, ammo is not plentiful and 9mm+P is. I have a Les Baer 38 Super and an STI DVC Ltd in 38 Super. I am just an old-timer that really likes my .38 Super, but shoots and reloads 10mm also. And now looking at either carrying the govt or maybe a commander. Can someone give me an idea of what they are selling for? I have purchase all the cheap stuff, Armscor, Magtech and Aguilla in 125 to 130 grain, you can find it for $15 ish a box. I now have a 18 shot, 3 caliber 1911. My Para-Ordnance is middle of the road. My first gun was a colt .38 super from 1958 which i inherited from my uncle who was a big gun enthusiast. I recently fitted a 38 Super barrel to my Rock Island 1911 in 9mm. This beautiful Colt was shipped to a hardware store in 1932 in El Paso, Texas for Texas Ranger Ralph Rohatsch, who at the time was a member of the Texas Highway Patrol.. Slides wear a set of Wilson Combats Tactical Pyramid sights and ejection ports are lowered and flared. The cost of the 1911 chambered for it was a deterrant too. The 9 mm didnt make it through the first book. 100 Texas Ranger Trail Waco, TX 76706 (254) 750-8631 [email protected] 9:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. Last guest admitted at 4:30 p.m. Interstate 35 at Southbound (from Dallas) Exit 335C or Northbound (from Austin) Exit 334B in The 38 Super fills the bill here. This is where I am supposed to say, and the result was the Wilson Combat Texas Ranger Model. Well, not exactly, as I found out when I requested one. , This is a great history of a very great man fighting bad men including LBJ and the criminal democratic party, Your email address will not be published. Its a little bulky for concealed carry, but its under the seat of whatever vehicle I happen to be driving. My super 38 Colt is an outstanding pistol. They deserve top-notch tools, and Wilson Combat 1911s are that! Hamers first stint as a Texas Ranger was with Captain John H. Rogerss Company C. In his first assignment he put a stop to murders and riots in the Rio Grande Valley that, notwithstanding the efforts of federal troops, had been raging unabated for many months. Regular Price Oak Hill Price Cash Price. Following the success of its initial collaboration with Vertx, Premier Body Armor announces its continued partnership. The conservative ranchers and almost everyone else in Texas loved Coke Stevenson and what he stood for. I just dont see the appeal. Calling all crime buffs: Here's your shot at history. After acquiring his first Wilson Combat pistol, Trace McDonald started competing in USPSA matches. Many of the accusations and dirty tricks that Johnson displayed have become standard protocol for modern day Democrats. Dallas County Sheriffs Deputy Bob Alcorn and another Dallas County deputy, Ted Hinton, had previously been involved in an attempt to ambush Barrow and Parker, in November 1933. Love the gun and love the round. At the time i knew nothing about guns At all. Deputy Oakley fired the opening burst from his Remington Model 8. The pistol pictured was presented to Highway patrolman Glenn Elliott in 1956. or redistributed. In my opinion, the 9mm has been outdated since 1911. 2 extra rounds in the magazine. Its a good-looking pistol! . At distances of 50 or less, the Super has virtually the same muzzle velocity of the .357 Magnum. The only thing that bugs me about .38 Super and 7.62 Tokarevis nobody chambers a modern weapon in them! Bonnie and Clyde Director Arthur Penn Dies at Age 88, Guns of outlaws Bonnie and Clyde to be auctioned. Is the .38 ACP Super a viable personal defense and tactical combination today? The Colt Monitor: A Rare Improved BAR DPS Texas Rangers (1935-present) Handguns 1950 Colt .38 Super, Ranger Glenn Elliott Colt Commander Model Longarms 2006 Bushmaster M4 Rifle 2011 LaRue .308 Rifle Other firearms of interest, either not in the museum collection or not on display. Colt .38 Super SN:1575 MFG:1929 Colt. Scared him 1/2 to death at a Dennys one day. Campfire Ranger. See Sold Price. When asked why he carried Colt's .45 Government Model, he replied in typical Ranger fashion 'Because they don't make a Colt .46!' Texas . Over the next four years, they became household names before their deaths at the hands of a Texas posse that had been tracking the gang since it helped break several friends out of a Texas jail. The smaller-diameter .38 Super in its hottest loads offer greater penetration against light cover than the .45 ACP or 9mm cartridges. Maybe then change the name from .38 Super to 9mm Super and lets see how much folks jump on the bandwagon for this new??? Colt Cobra TT 38 Special +P Rated Double Action Revolver with Black DLC Cylinder $749.00 $619.99; Notify Me When Available; Brand: Colt; Item Number: COBRA-TT2FO; Colt Cobra 38 Special Used Police Trade-in Revolver $699.99; Brand: Colt; Item Number: 169389LW; Colt Cobra 38 Special Double Action Revolver with Wood Grips . I have not personally owned a 38 Super as they were not a popular round during my real active shooting days and the ammo had gotten hard to find. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, While I have relegated most of my collection to the comfort of the safe, I loved the pistol and carried it for years. Have been reading about early Texas history and am amazed by accounts of the states way of life in the early 1900s and the stories of men like Frank Hamer and LBJ who contributed so much good and bad. I agree that the round can stand its own with the 9 and .45. *As a reloader for 30 yrs, Ive also used .357 (copper plated) boolits. With the bull barrel there is no bushing used in the slide so the problem of bushing breakup that some Colt officer-sized guns have experienced is now a thing of the past. I used Glocks exclusively for carry went through models and calibers, ending up with the G30 and 45ACP. Joined: Oct 2004. *Colt Style Belgium ''Texas Ranger'' 38 RevolverThis *Colt Style Belgium ''Texas Ranger'' 38 RevolverThis is a Belgium made Colt western style single and double action revolver. 3 Revolver, 1907 Winchester Rifle, Ranger George Chapman, 1950 Smith & Wesson Chiefs Special, Sgt. The gun men fell back but then they tried to follow Stevenson into the bank. Ive never bothered with it and no one I know personally has either. The unfortunate rarity of any sort of bulk ammunition and the corresponding magazines makes it more of a niche type of weapon but they are worth the extra effort. My harem of 1911s that I shoot regularly include 45s, three 9mm and two 38 Supers. Second, gangster use of the .38 Super to telling effect was known and thugs had even hammered the .38 Super into the extremely deadly machine pistol configuration. Out of stock View . Colt 1911 Heritage .38 Super Full-Size Stainless Pistol with Custom Scroll Engraving. The .38 Super was particularly popular in Texas and over 200,000 were produced between 1929 and 1970. A round in Barrows left temple laid him out dead. Though Clyde and Bonnie escaped the Sowers ambush by Dallas County authorities in November of 1933, Clyde ditched his shot up car near the Ft. Worth Pike and commandeered a less damaged car to make good their flight to freedom. The .38 ACP Super was a sensation noted for its high velocity of 1,300 fps and nine fast shots. It is my go to cartridge and has been for years. at the time. Market data provided by Factset. Still. Modern guns that headspace on the case mouth are very accurate. Most were marked " For .38 Colt Special " which is nothing more than the S&W .38 Special but with a flat nose. Wow! Serial Colt Model 1889 U.S. Navy Revolver. Combat mags. Hamer and the other peace officers used warning shots and tear gas to break the crowd up on more than one occasion while Hughes was locked in the district court vault for safety. The police and the Bankers Associations refused to cooperate with Hamers investigation. Do you still have the ammo? Please be respectful of others. The most fun to shoot pistol i own. The Colt .38 Super Model Automatic pistol was first introduced in 1929 as a variation on the Colt Government Model 45 but chambered for the powerful new 38 Super cartridges.
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